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« on: November 24, 2010, 11:41:42 AM »




There sat down, once, a thing on Henry's heart
só heavy, if he had a hundred years
& more, & weeping, sleepless, in all them time
Henry could not make good.
Starts again always in Henry's ears
the little cough somewhere, an odour, a chime.

And there is another thing he has in mind
like a grave Sienese face a thousand years
would fail to blur the still profiled reproach of.  Ghastly,
with open eyes, he attends, blind.
All the bells say: too late.  This is not for tears;
thinking.

But never did Henry, as he thought he did,
end anyone and hacks her body up
and hide the pieces, where they may be found.
He knows: he went over everyone, & nobody's missing.
Often he reckons, in the dawn, them up.
Nobody is ever missing.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 06:25:59 AM »


Huffy Henry hid the day by John Berryman
Huffy Henry hid the day,
unappeasable Henry sulked.
I see his point, a trying to put things over.
It was the thought that they thought
they could do it made Henry wicked & away.
But he should have come out and talked.

All the world like a woolen lover
once did seem on Henry's side.
Then came a departure.
Thereafter nothing fell out as it might or ought.
I don't see how Henry, pried
open for all the world to see, survived.

What he has now to say is a long
wonder the world can bear & be.
Once in a sycamore I was glad
all at the top, and I sang.
Hard on the land wears the strong sea
and empty grows every bed.



- Love this poem by Berryman. I do a decent impersonation of Berryman reading this poem, his slurred, staggered speech, his off beating timing, and stops. Such unusual and insightful turns of phrases.

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a trying to put things over

- That's true. We try to convery. To put things over our shoulder and carry them. The difficulty to communicate, despite language.

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It was the thought that they thought
they could do it made Henry wicked & away.

- What did they think? They could do it. What? Live commfortably. Live at all. Not go mad. It mad Henry wicked and away. It made him enraged and distant, that he couldn't just get on with living.

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open for all the world to see



A particular type of poet and poetry is 'pried open for alll the world to see' and they end up over-exposed, and under-appreciated. Or perhaps not. That which does not conceal itself loses definition, I once read. Maybe Berryman shouldn't have exposed himself to the cold world, quite to readily.

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Once in a sycamore I was glad
all at the top, and I sang.



Sweet image. All at the top, I sand. Hell yeah, I've felt that kind of elation.

I love this poem. Berryman has a strange, stilted kind of poetry. But the unusual turns of phrase really intrigue and open up before you.

Thanks for sharing Gab. I enjoyed the poem you showed.


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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 08:02:36 AM »


Dream Song 1. The beginning of Henry.

I'm hoping to do a good impression of his beard, but I haven't had much luck. I read that he might have been drunk here; he was a drinker; I have a great fondness for him. You wouldn't think he believed in God, somehow; he was very much into theology, and very much modest in terms of rating himself; he had to go through many deaths of friends who were also writers, and chose to take it upon himself to mourn them all: Faulkner, Hemingway, Yeats, Eliot, Dylan Thomas, Plath, Roethke and so on. Lycett, in his biography of Dylan, compares him to Dylan, saying only that Berryman's main difference was that he was terribly depressed, in addition to the womanizing, drinking and so on.

He said that Henry wasn't him, but you'd expect him to say that: only an attention-seeking, amateur would have said that he was him. He's not him, of course, but he is very much him in character: it's transposing, is it not. That's why he's pried open for all the world to see - but so are all writers who to choose to write and publish, they need not create an alter ego like Berryman did: if you write, you're exposed. Of course, the exposition might be substantial to the reader, and he gleams much, but someone like Berryman wanted a lot in return: he was extremely ambitious, he wanted to be up there with Whitman, and that didn't happen, and so, I guess at the end of a lot of cycles of trying, coupled with all his personal woes & problems, threw himself off the bridge: the poetic, though not necessarily true, justification being: I failed to become a great poet.

That last stanza is very interesting actually. I read somewhere that it can be divided into three voices, and I don't think the analysis is wrong:

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What he has now to say is a long
wonder the world can bear & be.



This is the narrator that has been speaking throughout the poem; subjective, intimate to the world of the protagonist Henry.

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Once in a sycamore I was glad
all at the top, and I sang.



This is Henry himself, if I remember correctly; very simple, but as you said, very sweet and true to life's pleasurable seconds that become decades in our dismayed experience of life.

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Hard on the land wears the strong sea
and empty grows every bed.



This is another narrator, more objective; more god-sounding, don't you think? It has an austere, ascetic tang, but it's all very powerful: it shows us the power that Berryman could have created in his poems, had he chosen, or his own individuality allowed him, to construct such a voice.

He makes for awkward reading; he mixes the ugly/trivial & the beautiful/sublime & the ugly/sublime & the beautiful/trivial all together, in unequal proportion.

Another one of my favourites is Dream Song 14:

Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so.
After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns,
we ourselves flash and yearn,
and moreover my mother told me as a boy
(repeatingly) "Ever to confess you're bored
means you have no
 
Inner Resources." I conclude now I have no
inner resources, because I am heavy bored.
Peoples bore me,
literature bores me, especially great literature,
Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes
as bad as Achilles,
 
who loves people and valiant art, which bores me.
And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag
and somehow a dog
has taken itself & its tail considerably away
into the mountains or sea or sky, leaving
behind: me, wag.



He begins reading it at around 4.20. Similarly awkward, if fascinating, reading like the one I posted it before.



I'd say his poetry's best quality are its pauses: they're not pauses of silent reflection. It's another kind of reflection, one that jars and moves in a disturbing manner; like an eel in a fish-tank.


http://pshares.blogspot.com/2007/11/homage-to-mistress-bradstreet-by-john.html
This is a long narrative poem by him; it's the poem that made him 'famous'.
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