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« on: July 07, 2009, 12:18:24 AM »


When critiquing, or being critiqued, what do you look for?

Some would have it that a nice:

Ah! Beautiful!

...would be sufficient. Others, more critical, or perhaps experienced,
would offer that ripping a piece to ribbons is all that matters.


Here's part of what I think. . .

I think that it really depends upon the writer.
Let's say the President's speech writers are working
on the State of the Union Adress.

Well. Fuck. It's important, right? It needs to be precise,
and it needs to be informative, and sometimes it needs to be persuasive.


What about a workshopping site where there are writers new to writing,
learning to hear their voices for the first time. Am I going to be worried
more that the writer find every fucking comma, and punctuate the cocksucker
acurately, or am I going to be more concerned with hearing the author's voice.

It's a delicate thing. I want to encourage writers, but I don't want to
feed them lies either. So there's that balance.

What do I personally look for in crits? Everything.
Call me names, call my mother names. Cal lme my mother's name.
I don't fucking care. But I want to know why. I want to learn.

I think that's the bottom line. Learning.

But there are degrees to learning. I should know my grammar.
I should know my voice. Newer writers may not have that yet.

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 08:51:13 AM »


When I was in seventh grade I didn't know what a clit was. I was too wrapped up in what was going on with me.
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2009, 02:53:37 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2009, 03:28:40 PM »


Eh. It was more about personal discovery. Alone.
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2009, 04:26:05 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2009, 04:49:51 PM »


one's self can be a very interesting phenomena too.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2009, 05:21:10 PM »


If there is one thing missing from my early teenage years that makes me totally resentful, it's a circle jerk. Or at least an eagerly helpful neighbor boy.

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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2009, 05:35:27 PM »


If you are ever in a circle jerk, be sure and yell out:

Bukowski !


Good fun.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2009, 06:46:06 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2009, 06:51:56 PM »


Duh. If I had said: yell out Colonel Saunders! would
it have helped clarify the obvious?
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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2009, 07:18:16 PM »


I'm vegan, so if you say so.

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